Tuesday, September 30, 2008

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Who gives you the latest dances, trends and fashion?
But when it comes to residuals they look past us
Woven into the fabric, they can't stand us
Even the white tees, blue jeans and red bandanas

Nas-America


Hip Hop

It started back in the Boogie Down Bronx in ' 78. I think I started listening back in like ' 84. I'm old school. But I've seen it rise from what people thought would be a passing fad to a multi-billion dollar industry. Hip hop brought many things to the forefront. Fashion trends immediately come to mind.

Over the years I've seen some things that made me wanna run to the store and purchase. And then there were other things that I wouldn't be caught dead in. LOL

Back in the day...if something was cool...then we described it as FRESH. If it wasn't cool...then we described it as WACK. So, I'll give you some fashion trends that I thought were FRESH...and some that I thought were WACK

FRESH- Gazelle shades (rocked by the Fat Boys...among others)

WACK- Polka Dots (popularized by Kwame)

FRESH- Fat shoe laces

WACK- Biker shorts (don't get me wrong...i liked to see women in biker pants but when dudes started rocking em...that was nasty)

FRESH- No shoe laces (Run-DMC)

WACK- Saggin pants (i dunno who started it but I wish they'd take it back with them)

FRESH- Fat gold chains (almost every rapper in the 80s)

WACK- platinum chains (never got into that platinum)

FRESH- Daisy Dukes shorts (nuff said)

WACK- Grillz (there will be some real yukmouths running around in a few years when they take that stuff outta their mouths)

FRESH- Button down shirts (Jay Z help start a movement to "change clothes")

WACK- Dudes rockin pink (Cam-ron...you'll never catch me in pink...PERIOD)

FRESH- Bandanas (Tupac)

WACK- Hammer pants (MC Hammer)

FRESH- Bald heads (Michael Jordan, Tupac, Onyx...to name a few)

WACK- Jheri Curl (drip...drip...drip)

FRESH- Door knocker earrings (can somebody bring those back?)

WACK- Kross Colors (nuff said)

FRESH- Timberlands (still rock em to this day)

WACK- putting your clothes on backwards (Kriss Kross)

FRESH- Hoodies

WACK- throwback jerseys (glad that one came and went)

I could go on and on.

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59 comments:

Eb the Celeb said...
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Eb the Celeb said...

why are you trying to act like you never had a jheri curl, wore biker shorts... or ever wore cross colors... if you didn't have something cross colors you were straight whack growing up...

12kyle said...

@ eb the celeb
We all know that you had a curl.

drip...drip...drip

Keisha "Kitten" Isaacs said...

Hey Brother!!

Excuse you Mr. but a curl was not wack if it was a Leisure Curl...less drip drip drip...and more natural looking....Yes I had a curl and I'm proud of it!!! However I pray they don't come back in style. My mama had the nerves to say she wanted to get one again a few years ago...the devil is a liar & will sho nuff make a fool out of ya everytime.

The F$%K it List said...

first I'm see my twitter inspired you hahah

And Eb is right in NYC you had to have at least a hat from cross colors.

Fresh Girbaud Jeans, loose fit
Wack these yeast infection jeans they are rocking now

Fresh Three finger name Rings
Wack The silly ass platinum and diamond chains. can we say blood diamonds hip hop fans

Fresh The backpack *(a la Grand Puba)
Wack young kids rocking fake Louis Vuitton now a days.

you want me to keep going?

dessex said...

fresh-dope lyrics
Wack-soulja boy

fresh-YO MTV Raps
Wack-106/park Rap City

Fresh-ATCQ
Wack-Dip Set

lol I could go on too lol

Kay C, The Quiet Storm said...

WHAT? You never wore Kross Colours? LOL

I think Jodeci started that saggin' thing...not sure.

I agree that wearing your clothes backwards was too much. I hate to see a grown man with a grill, or wearing a jersey when he is not going to the game.

You never had a Jherri curl? Me either bruh, I could never get into that craze.

Beautifully.Conjured.Up said...

Door Knockers came back about two years ago...they are still here, but not as much (I have a pair).

Fresh: A fully-clothed girl in a video
Wack: Video Hoes

Fresh: All white Air Force Ones
Wack: These rainbow looking sneakers with all of these ugly colors

Fresh: A nice pair of jeans
Wack: Those ugly, big ass velor sweat suits.

Fresh: Belly (movie)
Wack: I'm Bout It (movie)

Fresh: A nice hair cut
Wack: Cornrows

B said...

I'm dying at the Jheri curl. Ewww!!!

PCD (Pretty Circle Drawer) said...

first of all, men in pink is HOT!! men in pink fur, driving pink cars is NOT-there is a difference! that is all

Queen of My Castle said...

I am sooooo smiling at this post. I remember rocking biker shorts with the T-shirts and the little T-shirt holder thingies. Forgot what they were called.

I love to see my little men in hoodies. They look so grown up. I also like to see men rocking hoodies and Tims. There's something about a man that rock the hoodies then switch over and do the grown and sexy thing with button down shirts.

I saw a chic at Wal-Mart rocking some bamboo (door knocker) earrings. I hope that ish doesn't come back in style.

12kyle said...

@ Keisha the Kitten
LOL @ leisure curl

@ The F$%k It List
I used to love 3 finger rings. I always wanted one!

@ dessex
Dope lyrics are sorely being missed in hip hop right now

@ Kay C the Quiet Storm
I didn't understand that throwback jersey era. There were dudes who rocked the jerseys and had no idea about the name of the athlete that they were representing. I remember one rapper boasting about having more than 300 throwback jerseys. Hmmm...at $150 a pop? That's a heavy price to pay for a fad.

@ Beautifully.Conjured.Up
Video hoes are here to stay...unfortunately. *sigh*

You don't like cornrows?

@ B
Yeah. I never had one

@ PCD
Call me old skool but I'll never rock pink

Could it be that you are a bit partial to the color pink, PCD??? Hmmmm. LoL

@ Queen
I feel you! There is something about rockin a nice hoodie and Timbs in the fall/winter. A lotta women love that look

Brad said...

Fresh - Brothers in business suits. I need more suits

Wack - women in baggy pants. I say show em what you got. LOL

Yo, one thing tho. I was in NY when Hip Hop jumped off. And believe me when I tell you, you HAD to be at a certain "fresh" level to be able to walk down the street safely. We had a friend that couldn't afford gear. They got CLOWNED on the regular. To the point that I think it effects them to this day.

Beautifully.Conjured.Up said...

Cornrows are only acceptable for babies,children, and women who don't want to worry about their hair when they go to the islands for vacation...grown men shouldn't wear them.

ShellyShell said...

To this day I've never had a pair of Timbs! I did rock Doc Martins in college with door knocker earrings! Oh yeah Cross Color hat and shirt! I have to agree with F%$K it...the backpack hell yeah!

Fresh:A nice fitted Yankee hat
Wack:Those hats that have all that shyt all over them.

Fresh: If you're going to rock lables have them be real.

Wack: All that fake shyt. Fake Louis, Coach, Gucci!

How can you not wear pink. Pink is sexy on a man especially if you combine it with the right suit...lawd! Rock a light pink shirt and a grey suit with a hot pink and grey tie! Or a navy suit in a pink and blue tie! Good lawd and be sexy! I love looking at some of the men in my building or walking up Wall st to see the suit combos and I ALWAYS spot the dude rockin pink! YOU need to get on it Kyle!

The Jaded NYer said...

I never had any of that stuff- the Fresh nor the Wack...

my mom shopped in department stores only and considered any styles inspired by hip hop to be "trashy"

and EWWW re: jheri curls! "Just let your soooooul glooooooow" HA HA HA!!!!

Opinionated Diva said...

Back when we said "fresh" the opposite was "booty"...LOL!

Booty meant weak, or bad.

I'm confused at how you like daisy dukes but not biker shorts. lol

12kyle said...

@ Brad
Less is more, right? LOL

@ Beautifully.Conjured.Up
I hear you. I thought that women dug cornrows. So, you prefer less hair on a man, right? lol

@ ShellyShell
I just can't rock nuffin pink. I don't care if it's a darker pink. I know that pink looks good with gray. I have a smooth gray suit. A a pink tie might look nice with it but i just can't do it. LOL. Just can't.

@ Jaded Santana
They weren't all trashy...but a LOT of them were. haaaaa

@ OD
Daisey dukes were rocked by the chicks on a hot summer day. Or in a club.

Biker shorts were cool but then they got outta hand. Dudes started wearing them! Then, old ladies started wearing them to the gym. You can use your imagination...

not a good look

TravelDiva said...

Sagging pants are the worst fashion trend in hip hop history. Period.

And LOL on Eb. That's true.

TravelDiva said...

And I can't front like I didn't have a curl in 5th and 6th grade, and I looked cute. LOL

Rich said...

i got to agree with you for the most part, but biker shorts was the bomb until fat girls started trying to get in on it.

It's funny though. Timing is everything. I remember being in the 5th grade - 1976/77 - and my dad was cutting my hair and I jumped and it left a patch, so he cut all my hair off. I got clowned so hard for having a low cut. It was practically a KOVALIS (Kojack - Telly Sovalis).

I remember getting a gold name plate with the name "EASY D" on it, when I was in college. This chick from Miami hooked me up. Man, you couldn't tell me I wasn't FRESH!

12kyle said...

@ TravelDiva
I really despise saggin. I saw a kid the other day whose pants were damn near off. I really wanted to jump outta the car and literally kick him in his ass!

@ Rich
You are right. Fat girls in biker pants made you wanna throw up

Kandi Black said...

I be rocking the door knockers...i want one of those fat gold chains, but i cant seem to find one... :(

Jacqueline said...

Nice blog, brought back a lot of memories....I always smile when I here pioneered rap. It's funny back then I never ever thought I was listening to and would eventually own a part of this history. I went to the Def Jam 10the anniversary party a few years ago. In the swag bag was the box set with a bio included....I felt honoured to not only learn more about the history but to also be a part of it.

The Flyyest said...

Lmao @ EB

Door knockers are back!!!!! I got me a few pair! Umm I'm really laughing my ŧ§ off.... reading the whacks!!!! Hey...I had a jheri curl when I was in the 2nd grade...I was killin the game!! Lmao

OMG I remember when kris kross came out...my bro and cuzzins tried to wear their clothes backwards til my mom slapped the sense in them...but the did cut their eyebrows like them!!!

Oh..... I got one
FRESH: a nice fade or waves
WHACK: designs....

I mean its cooh if your like 13... and the 3 cuts on the side of your head (hammer cut) is not cool!!!!! Lmao

Miss Mika said...

Hey now, there was nothing wack about Cross Colors... Karl Kani on the another hand....

Just kidding.
I always thought that having your name as a pendent was fresh. I always wanted one but never got one.

The only thing I can say that was wack were those high top fades that guys were going nuts over trying to maintain and put designs in.
Tacky wack.

Darius T. Williams said...

yea - I guess throwbacks are done with for now, huh.

Darius T. Williams said...

yea - I guess throwbacks are done with for now, huh.

Charles said...

I rocked jerseys!!! I mainly play ball in them though or chill in the house with those. Jheri curls though??? Just let your soul glow....

Stew said...

i will take the platinum chains WAY before the big ass gold ones. it was cool in the 80's, but i think that is one of the styles that need to stay in the 80's

Mizrepresent said...

Fresh - low haircuts
WACK - afros

Fresh - R&B returning
WACK - bs rap

Fresh - gentlemen
WACK - Gentlemen clubs

Fresh - thongs
WACK - thongs showing

Fresh - Respect
WACK - bitches and hoes

Fresh - TAG
WACK - Myspace

Fresh - levi Jeans
WACK - anybody jeans (lol, in my day)

Fresh - nice hairstyles, cuts
WACK - pink, blue hair

The F$%K it List said...

I'm back. Yes I had me a three finger and as you know my name is crazy long it was almost a four finger. hahah

Fresh:Nameplates, your name
WACK: nameplate with your name, your boo's name WACK

Fresh: Shelly Shell said it, real designer bags
WACK: Chinatown specials.

Fresh: Tommy Hilfiger shirts
WACK: CHeap Ass Polo (CHAPS)back then it was a major crime, along with US polo.

Fresh: First Jordans, First Barkley, First A.Hardaways
WACK: 54.11 (reeboks with the velcro straps, which seem to be making a come back)

I really could do this all day, I might have to jack this post.

12kyle said...

@ kandi black
it might take a while...but you can still find em. just make sure that it's gold. lol

@ Jacqueline
Welcome to the 12th Planet. Make sure that you come back. We have a good time over here. We're here every day like a stray cat.

I hear you. You just get a great feeling when you hear that music that takes you back

@ flyyest
"Hey...I had a jheri curl when I was in the 2nd grade...I was killin the game!!" OMG!!! LMAO!!! You are crazy

@ Mika
nice profile pic. you look like you're chillaxin.

I always wanted a name belt. But my moms was not havin' it

@ Darius
I hope they never come back

@ Charles
Cats could not live down the curl after that movie came out. LOL

@ Stew
Really?? Man, I couldn't understand that platinum craze. The cats who couldn't afford it copped silver chains. LOL

@ Miz
"Fresh - Respect
WACK - bitches and hoes"


That is soooo true!

@ The F$%k It List
The first Penny Hardaway sneakers were hot. Maaaaad comfortable.

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